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Excel sheet: The cost of "minting" KVT during PMO

At this moment, it is still possible to earn KVT by minting KAU / KAG. A popular way to obtain KVT is by so called "mint cycling", where the same capital is used repeatedly for minting KAU/ KAG, selling it on the Exchange, and then bringing it back into the Mint for the next cycle. This way it is possible to obtain KVT significantly cheaper than by buying them outright on the exchange.

However, it is quite complicated to work out the total costs, which is composed of Mint fee (0.45%), Exchange fee (0.22%), spread between the Mint buy and Exchange sell (variable, but often in the 0.27% ballpark) and remittance of cash back to the Mint (flat $25 fee).

Especially because of this last factor, using a large cash balance works out the cheapest. But of course not all users have that luxury. Also one factor that is often overlooked is that you need to mint in lots of 100 KAU or 200 KAG. So in case of KAU, that is $5300 at current prices. Once your balance falls below that, you cannot continue minting, possibly even before you have earned the KVTs that you want!

To help users with this analysis, I have created an excel sheet that takes all these factors into account. Just input the parameters and it will work out all the mint cycles and the resulting cost per KVT. This allows you to play around with these parameters and find out how it works out for you.

Note that in practice, prices, spreads etc vary, so it won't be exact. But I hope you guys will find it a useful tool.

*** Disclaimer ***
Use at your own risk. While I believe the calculations to be correct, I cannot be held responsible for any errors. Please let me know if you discover any errors.


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Currently you earn 1 KVT for every $100,000 minted. Note that this is the metal value of the minted KAU/ KAG, so the 0.45% minting fee is excluded from that.

To verify how close you are to earning a KVT, download the Transactions report in the mint. There you can see the metal value of the minted currency.

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At this moment, it is still possible to earn KVT by minting KAU / KAG. A popular way to obtain KVT is by so called "mint cycling", where the same capital is used repeatedly for minting KAU/ KAG, selling it on the Exchange, and then bringing it back into the Mint for the next cycle. This way it is possible to obtain KVT significantly cheaper than by buying them outright on the exchange.

However, it is quite complicated to work out the total costs, which is composed of Mint fee (0.45%), Exchange fee (0.22%), spread between the Mint buy and Exchange sell (variable, but often in the 0.27% ballpark) and remittance of cash back to the Mint (flat $25 fee).

Especially because of this last factor, using a large cash balance works out the cheapest. But of course not all users have that luxury. Also one factor that is often overlooked is that you need to mint in lots of 100 KAU or 200 KAG. So in case of KAU, that is $5300 at current prices. Once your balance falls below that, you cannot continue minting, possibly even before you have earned the KVTs that you want!

To help users with this analysis, I have created an excel sheet that takes all these factors into account. Just input the parameters and it will work out all the mint cycles and the resulting cost per KVT. This allows you to play around with these parameters and find out how it works out for you.

Note that in practice, prices, spreads etc vary, so it won't be exact. But I hope you guys will find it a useful tool.

*** Disclaimer ***
Use at your own risk. While I believe the calculations to be correct, I cannot be held responsible for any errors. Please let me know if you discover any errors.


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Hey thanks - I've my own but this is much better!
 
For that reason, I thought I give this topic a subtle kick to the top of the active topics. The coming weeks or months might be your last chance to earn KVT from minting.
I'm still inclined to believe there are some observers out there who like the idea, but don't want to allocate their assets to Kinesis until they see execution start to happen.

If I'm right, then there may be a big pile of dollars converting itself to gold and gaining KVTs via the PMO in the process.

Odds are the PMO will go on for a while, but the world is in an edge case financially right now. One wrong event and things can change quickly. Which gives me mixed feelings - great for me financially the way I'm positioned, but awful for everyone in the world at the same time.
 

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